Back in the early 1970's my dad bought me a.177 Webley Junior with a rifled barrel, I must have been about 10 or 12. We test fired it in the store room of the sports shop, dad loaded it for me. We got home and after promising to behave myself I was allowed to go into the back garden and begin shooting; I thought all my Christmases had come at once! The only problem was I did not have the steregnth in my arms to cock the barrell -ahhh I was shattered. After a great deal of trial and error I finally found a way I could cock the weapon, even if it took forever. After a few days I got the knack and put many thousands of pellets through it.

A Pre War Webley Junior.177 Calibre Air Pistol in an original box. Its serial number is 14066 which makes roughly halfway through this models production run from. It was only made in.177 and.22 calibres. Webley Hurricane.22 air pistol. Webley & Scott produced a number of single-shot.

Regards Alan David Sydney. I was brought up in NYC in the late 40s and early 50s. BB guns had been outlawed in the city at the end of WW II. Instead of rounding up all the Daisy BB guns parents had to destroy the inner barrel and kids were allowed to keep the rest. Since the statute of limitation has long run, I can confess to have started what was viewed as a vandalism crime wave in Brooklyn. I discovered that the innermost hollow tube of a car antenna had an ID of.177.By winding black electrician's tape at either end of the tube, my Daisy model 25 pump gun became a muzzle loading BB gun. Because it lacked the side feed hole that allowed a BB to enter and some air pressure to escape, I had an even more powerful BB gun than it had originally been.

Word filtered from neighborhood to neighborhood and all over Brooklyn BB guns were resurrected and car radios stopped working. Hi, I live in San Francisco, Calif. I wanted to ask about my pre war Webley junior.177 air gun that I inherited from my grand father, which is a highly unusual heirloom in the United States. He fought in WWI at age 15 and after the war he bought this air gun in Britain before he returned to the US. I am trying to find out what year, or span of years it was made and what i could sell it for in the U.S.

This air gun has a metal straight grip. The batch no. Is 477 and the serial number is J26477.

It has suffered oxidation resulting in some rusting and pitting. The compression is weak, and not likely to shoot a pellet very far. It needs restoration to bring it back to its original compression and appearance.

There are absolutely no Webley air pistols on Ebay in the US. I was able to find some online at gun stores collectibles and auctions, but not the one I have. There are obviously few in the US, so I dont know if I can get more for this air gun because of that? I would really appreciate any information on this.

Hi i just found this thread right now and was happy to know Someone spoke to my post about my prewar Webley Scott Junior.177 From the pictures you posted with your question, my air gun is not the same. From observation and learning more about old webley air pistols, the obvious, observable difference is mine has a straight metal grip, while yours appears slanted. Mine has batch 477 and serial J26477 if that can bring more specificity. Other than I know the the presence of serial numbers means it was made pre WWII.

Right now, I am going to try to load a pic so you can see it! My first 'Firearm' was a Daisy model 25. Hit everything I aimed. Decades later bought a Webley Tempest, maybe ten years ago, one of the last I suppose. Nice piece and well made, but took a bit of practice to shoot it well.

Free Vst Plugins Reason 5. Tight grip, not accurate, lighter grip.accurate, and it does have recoil. Would love to have one of the old classics, one day. Do have an old one crank lead BB pistol but it's not a Webley. HAENEL MOD 100 - D.R.P.

Blued with checkered grips and smoothbore brass barrel. Original piece in fine condition. Scarce I think. Info is almost nil on these.

Any of you guys can help with take down, appreciate that. Works well, but you will be lucky to hit a beer can at ten feet with it.

Info on these is hard to come. This is a picture of the webley scott junior.177 air pistol I inherited from my grandfather in the USA. I included photos of the serial and batch numbers. Now that people can see it, I wondered what model it is, and also the best approximation of when it was made during the span of time that webley air pistols were in production prior to WWII. Anything anyone knows about this one, is very welcomed because I am very interested knowing as much about this air pistol and older webley air guns in general.

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Contents • • • • • • • • • History [ ] The Webley company was founded in the late 18th century by William Davies, who made bullet moulds. It was taken over in 1834 by his son-in-law, Philip Webley, who began producing sporting guns. The manufacture of revolvers, for which the firm became famous, began twenty years later. At that time the company was named P.

Webley & Son. In 1897 Webley amalgamated with W & C Scott and Sons to become The Webley & Scott Revolver and Arms Company Ltd of Birmingham.

Webley's revolvers became the official British sidearm in 1887, remaining in British service until 1964. After 1921, however, Webley service revolvers were manufactured by the government-owned in. In 1932 the.38 inch calibre revolver, became the standard British service revolver. However, wartime shortages ensured that all marks of the Webley, including models in.455 and.38/200, remained in use through World War Two. The.455 Mk.VI was declared obsolete in 1945 but the.38 Mk.IV remained in service as a substitute standard weapon into the early 1960s.

In 1920 the passing of the in the UK, which limited the availability of handguns to civilians, caused their sales to plummet. As a result, the company began producing, their first being the Mark I air pistol. Demand for air guns increased rapidly in the 1920s and Webley's business began to grow again, with an inevitable peak related to weapons supply for British military use during the Second World War.

Declining sales led to the decision to give up firearms manufacture completely in 1979, however air gun production at the Birmingham factory continued until 22 December 2005, when the company closed down. Webley's dependent company - Venom Custom Shop - ceased trading as well. It was then bought by -based company Airgunsport. At this time Airgunsport relocated the manufacture of all Webley guns to Turkey. Webley & Scott Ltd is owned by both the Fuller Group and John Bright. John Bright is also co-owner of Highland Outdoors Limited who are the UK distributors for Webley, Webley & Scott and AGS. Production [ ] Until 1979 Webley & Scott manufactured and for private use, as well as producing sidearms for military and police use.

This came to include both revolvers and self-loading (). Webley's production originally consisted of hand-crafted firearms, although mass-production was later introduced to supply police and military buyers. The first Webley production revolver appeared in 1853. Known as the it was a muzzle-loaded and ball pistol. Some consider it to be the finest revolver of its day as it could shoot as fast as the contemporary revolvers and was faster to load.

However the hand-made Longspur could not compete in price with mass-produced revolvers such as the Colt, and production never equalled that of Webley's competitors (). Webley's first popular success came with its first revolver, adopted by the in 1867. Webley 1868 RIC No.

1 Revolver cal 450 CF There is a well-known story that a pair of Webley RIC Model revolvers were presented to by Lord Berkeley in 1869, and it is believed that General Custer was using them at the time of his death in the. There is some question whether the gun or guns presented to George Armstrong Custer were Webley RIC’s. Other sources indicate that Lord Berkeley Paget presented Custer with a Galand & Sommerville 44 calibre revolver (manufactured in England by the firm of Braendlin & Sommerville) and gave another to Tom Custer. Of course, it is possible that Lord Berkeley Paget may have given Custer two revolvers, both a Galand & Sommerville and a Webley RIC or even given the Custer brothers, in some combination, a pair of Webley RICs and a pair of Galand & Sommervilles.

A cased Galand & Sommerville revolver certainly formed part of Tom Custer’s estate. Galand & Sommerville 44 revolvers were made to use the same ammunition as the first Webley RIC’s, i.e. Webley's.442 centre-fire cartridge. Almost all of Webley's subsequent revolvers were of a design.

A pivoting lever on the side of the gun's upper receiver was pressed to release the barrel and cylinder assembly, which then tilts up and forward on a bottom-front pivot. After loading, the assembly is tilted back into firing position and locked closed. Webley 'The British Bull Dog' Revolver cal 450 CF - 1870s Webley went on to produce more revolvers for the civilian market. Webley's popular pocket revolver, The British Bull Dog, was developed in 1872, available in.44 Short Rimfire,.442 and.450 calibers, and widely exported and copied.

Smaller scale versions in.320 and.380 calibers were added later. Although often attributed to Webley, Webley only produced some of the revolvers now commonly referred to as Webley.577 Boxer Revolvers, which used the most powerful handgun cartridge of the day, the. It was produced by Webley under licence from the firm of of Birmingham, whose design it actually was. Webley was just one of several firms licensed to use Tranter's double-action lock and particularly Tranter's patented revolving recoil shield, which was a key feature of the early.577 calibre revolvers.

In 1879 Webley developed & sold commercially a rugged and powerful revolver intended for the British military, the WG or Webley Government in.455/.476, the WG's cylinder was long enough for.44 Russian &.45 Colt length rounds [Jim Farmer has seen.45 Colt chambered WG models, but is unsure if they were converted.455s- further research is needed for WG chamberings- he has seen Belgian WG copies made in.44-40]. The WG frame & cylinder were then shortened for the.455 & the variant was adopted in the 1880s as the. Webley 'WG' Army Model (a.k.a. Webley Government) Revolver cal 455/476 () Nicknamed 'the British ' in the, the Mk 1 was manufactured in.450,, and.476 calibre and founded a family of revolvers that were the standard handguns of the British Army,, and British police from 1887 to 1918. The Mark VI (known as the Webley Revolver No. 1 Mark VI after 1927) was the last standard service pistol made by Webley; the most widely produced of their revolvers, 300,000 were made for service during World War I.

Webley began experimenting with semi-automatic action in 1900 and in 1909 they began producing a series of semi-automatic pistols for civilian and police use. Their.32 Automatic Pistol was adopted by London's in 1911. The same weapon in.38 calibre was used by the as a substitute standard weapon during World War II. The still manufactures.380 Revolver Mk IIz cartridges, as well as a revolver (also known as IOF Mk1) with 2-inch (51 mm) barrel that is clearly based on the Webley Mk IV.38 service pistol. In 1924 Webley produced its first air pistol, the Mark I. In 1929 Webley introduced its Mark II air rifle.

During World War II Webley air rifles were used for rifle training as well as civilian target shooting and hunting. The Mark II, known as the service air rifle because of its use by the UK military, used break-action with a superimposed barrel locked by bolt action. The detachable barrel was easily interchangeable with others of the three calibres available. The Mark II was discontinued in 1946 and replaced by the Mark III, in production until 1975.

The Mark III was a top-loaded air rifle with a fixed barrel and used underlever cocking. It was only made in.177 and.22 calibres. Webley Hurricane.22 air pistol Webley continues to manufacture air pistols in.22 (5.5 mm) and.177 (4.5 mm) calibre, and air rifles in.22,.177 and.25 (6.35 mm) calibre. A variety of actions are available in several different models, including the Hurricane, Nemesis, Stinger and Tempest air pistols and Raider, Venom, and Vulcan air rifles. In early 2007 Webley broke away from its traditional 'barrel overlever' design to launch the revised Typhoon model, a 'break-barrel' design with a recoil-reduction system.

Webley & Scott has also returned to shotgun production with alliances with European manufacturers, and now markets a number of sporting and competition shotguns. In 2008, Webley sold to Webley (International) Limited but still produces products under the Webley name In January 2011 Webley (international) Limited held a creditors meeting Under Section 98 Insolvency Act 1986. On the 3 February 2011 Liquidators were appointed to Wiind Up the affairs of the company.

According to the Statement of Affairs produced by the Liquidators, Webley (international) owed their unsecured creditors a sum of £164,595.76. They also owed money to one Secured Creditor, Webley Limited (in Liquidation) a sum of £140,000. Webley & Scott was acquired by the Fuller Group in 2012. Famous guns [ ].

Webley Mk II Service air rifle • The (1853) • The (1867) • The (1868) • The (1872) Developed from the RIC Revolver, with a barrel only 2½ inches it could fit in a coat pocket. • The Marks I - VI, (1887 to 1923) Sold commercially as the 'Webley-Government' • The (1884 to 1914) A very high-quality revolver manufactured by Webley, sold by company • The (1900) • The (1900) • The Webley Mark I Air Pistol (1924) • The (1929) • The • The (1977) • The Webley Hurricane Air Pistol (1977) • The model 100 single barrel shotgun • The model 400, 500 & 700 shotguns Webley & Scott automatic pistols [ ]. Webley's first was an experimental pistol in.45 produced in 1903; mass production began in 1906 with the (7.65 mm) model. This pistol had a 3.5' barrel and an 8-round magazine. A.25 (6.35 mm) version had a 3-inch barrel and a 6-round magazine. Ultimately pistols were produced in a range of bores from.22 inch to.455 inch, and included 9 mm models.

Webley self-loaders were simple, pistols, designed by William Whiting. Production ceased in 1940. In 1905, Webley had presented an auto-loading pistol for testing by the (SAC), a military group charged with organizing trials and making recommendations of arms to the. The SAC, which had begun testing automatics in 1900, was unimpressed by Webley's offering, preferring foreign automatics including the. However no automatic was recommended over contemporary service, which were all Webleys at the time, and trials would continue until 1913. In 1910 Webley offered a new automatic for testing, and in 1911 the was recommended by both the SAC and the Chief Inspector of Small Arms (CISA.) This pistol was adopted by the in early 1912 as the first automatic pistol officially in British service. Later the pistol was also adopted by the and was issued to members of the.

The Webley & Scott self-loading.455 inch pistol had a 7-round magazine. It was not a small pistol, rugged and accurate at short range, but also heavy with an awkward grip angle. It was prone to jamming throughout most of its service career, owing largely to its ammunition, which left residue that fouled the close tolerances of its diagonally locking breech. The problem was officially resolved in 1941 with the introduction of the Mark Iz () cartridge.

The first examples of the pistol had the safety on left side of the hammer, but later models moved the safety to the left side of the frame, where it could also lock the slide. A grip safety was provided on the military models.

The pistol had dual ejectors. The slide stop was activated by the absence of a cartridge in the feedway, not by the magazine follower as in most automatics. A drift-adjustable rear sight had range-hashmarks in. Although never officially adopted by the British Army, Webley self-loaders were widely used as a substitute-standard or personal weapons by British and forces in both World Wars.

Versions were also marketed to military and police forces and were widely adopted. The in.32 ACP was adopted by the in 1911, and is sometimes referred to as the Webley MP for this reason. It officially replaced the bulldog revolvers then in use following the infamous in 1911. Webley & Scott flare pistols [ ]. 1918 MkIII flare pistol Webley & Scott produced a number of single-shot, break open signal devices used by Commonwealth Military Forces during the First and Second World Wars.

The most prolific of these was the No.1 MkIII, produced in 1918 at the company's Birmingham facility. A variant, differing only in its use of black plastic grip panels instead of the earlier wood, was produced by Colonial Sugar Refinery in in 1942. Perhaps the most famous example of a No.1 Mk 1 Flare Pistol is in the collection at the, Harbour Grace, NL.

The gun was lent by Edward Langdon Oke, IV, a veteran of WW1 and the then editor of the Harbor Grace Standard newspaper, to the first Canadian to make a transatlantic flight, Capt. Boyd took off 9 Oct 1930 from the Harbour Grace airstrip in the plane Maple Leaf (aka, Columbia), navigated by Lieut. Harry Connor, and landed 10 Oct in Tresco, Scilly Isles, England. The gun was engraved to mark the historic flight and is also tatted with the owner’s initials. The company logo is that of a bird wing with the tips angling left and W+S underneath and the gun is stamped 7648.

See also [ ] • • • • • • Notes [ ]. • Heier, Vincent A. Arcadia Publishing. • Retrieved on 2011-04-03 • Kinard, Jeff (2004).. • Maze, Robert (2012).. Osprey Publishing. Indian Ordnance Factories.

Retrieved 2006-08-03. • Shideler, Dan (28 February 2011).. Gun Digest Books. • Middleton, Richard (2007).. Skyhorse Publishing Inc. • ^ Thrale, Christopher (2010).. Robert Hale Limited..

References [ ] • Dowell, William Chipcase, The Webley Story, (Commonwealth Heritage Foundation, Kirkland, Washington: 1987) External links [ ] • •.